January 2, 2010

  • Don't tell me what my religion says Pt 2

     

    Missionary claims that the Greek text is in harmony with the Tanakh are, in the least,outrageous in their complete untruths. Statements in the text completely contradict what the Prophets have foretold in their writings, locations of places are changed, and concepts altered.
     
    On the subject of Elijah,The Prophet says that Elijah would come to announce the Day of the L-rd
    Mal 4:5: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
    6: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
    The Greek text has Jesus saying that Elijah has come in fulfillment of Malachi's prophesy.
    Mt:17:10: And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
    Mt:17:11: And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
    Mt:17:12: But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
    Yet the one that Jesus refers to,John the Baptist,denies that he is Elijah.
    Jn:1:21: And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
    Obviously John the Baptist knew he wasn't Elijah. Since the Tanakh states that Elijah must come BEFORE the messiah,this idea that Elijah has come contradicts the Prophet. Christian Apologists attempt to say it was the spirit of Elijah that was in John yet nothing in the original Hebrew text of the Prophet even remotely infers that it would be anything except the Prophet in the flesh.
    On the subject of sacrifice,the book of Hebrews states that Jesus is the final sacrifice.
    Heb:10:12: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
    This clearly contradicts what it says in the Prophets. Ezekiel's prophesy of the Eternal Temple and the re-establishment of the sacrifices, including sin sacrifice
    Ezek:37:26: Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
    Ezek:45:17: And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the Sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
    Another contradiction is in Revelations in that it says there will be no courtyard of the Eternal Temple
    Rv:11:2: But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
    Yet Ezekiel gives the measurement of the courtyard from the main building to where the wall is erected
    Ezek:42:1: Then he brought me forth into the utter court, the way toward the north: and he brought me into the chamber that was over against the separate place, and which was before the building toward the north.
    Ezek:42:16: He measured the east side with the measuring reed, five hundred reeds, with the measuring reed round about.
    Ezek:42:17: He measured the north side, five hundred reeds, with the measuring reed round about.
    Ezek:42:18: He measured the south side, five hundred reeds, with the measuring reed.
    Ezek:42:19: He turned about to the west side, and measured five hundred reeds with the measuring reed.
    Ezek:42:20: He measured it by the four sides: it had a wall round about, five hundred reeds long, and five hundred broad, to make a separation between the sanctuary and the profane place.
    Ezek:46:21: Then he brought me forth into the utter court, and caused me to pass by the four corners of the court; and, behold, in every corner of the court there was a court.
     
    The only mention of Gentiles in Ezekiel is in chapter 4 before the Eternal Temple comes: 4:13.  And the Lord said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
     14.  Then said I, Ah Lord God! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
     15.  Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.
     16.  Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, behold, I will break the staff of bread in Jerusalem: and they shall eat bread by weight, and with care; and they shall drink water by measure, and with astonishment:
     17.  That they may want bread and water, and be astonied one with another, and consume away for their iniquity.
    One would also imagine that the promised Messiah would ,at least, be somewhat familiar with the existing scriptures and his own family history since the story of David is written down.
     
    Jesus quote:Mark 2
    25. And he said unto them, Did ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was hungry, he, and they that were with him?
    26. How he entered into the house of God when Abiathar was high priest, and ate the showbread, which it is not lawful to eat save for the priests, and gave also to them that were with him?

    Tanakh quote 1 Sam 21
    1. Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest: and Ahimelech came to meet David trembling, and said unto him, Why art thou alone, and no man with thee?
    2. And David said unto Ahimelech the priest, The king hath commanded me a business, and hath said unto me, Let no man know anything of the business whereabout I send thee, and what I have commanded thee: and I have appointed the young men to such and such a place.
     
    Ahimelech was High Priest, Abiathar was his son and David was alone and didn't have "they that were with him".
     
    Matt 27:9 says that Jeremiah prophesied about a potters field and thirty pieces of silver. There is no reference to a potter's field nor thirty pieces of silver in Jeremiah.
     
    Matt23:35 says that Zachariah,son of Barachiah was killed. There is no Zachariah mentioned in the Tanakh. There was a Zechariah that was stoned , but his father was Zahoiadah. There is no mention of a Barachiah in the Tanakh at all.
     
    John 17:12 mentions a "son of perdition;that the scripture be fulfilled."There is no reference to a son of perdition in the Tanakh.
     
    Acts7:15-16 says that Jacob was buried in Shechem when the cave that Abraham bought was Mam're(Gen50;13,Gen25:9).